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Tian Nu Evil Ppl	Posted - 2010.03.03 15:14:00 - [1] if you lost ship in lvl 4, something is wrong... try using this : http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=HomePage
Tian Nu Evil Ppl	Posted - 2010.03.03 21:42:00 - [2] I MUST correct some ppl, NEVER KILL FRIGATS FIRST! You doing level 4Æs in BS I presume which means that frigates can NOT kill you no mather what. ALWAYS fallow this order: Crusers then BS then small ** in usual you should be able to lock 7 targets ( with multitasking) so try to lock 4 crusers and 3 frigs (once BS get in range you start pounding them). If you look at mission set ups most ships are frigates and crusers there is only few BS in every mission. So REMEMBER: 1, crusers (why cos they drop fast and you get a lot incoming dps erased) 2, BS (you will lern what range they are dangerous) for exemple nightmare and machariel NPCÆs are not same range (but that experience) 3, once you killed everything kill the small ** (never shoot at them use æhobgoblins or warriors, hobgoblins seem to work better for me). Last thing orbit ! highlight gate or something and set orbit so you perma moving. Oh and NEVER panic if you see the shild/armor going down just aline to something (ex asteoid belt) and try to get the DPS down if things get to structure just hit warp you will insta warp out (if not scrambled).
Tian Nu Evil Ppl	Posted - 2010.03.04 02:10:00 - [3] Now i know why ppl cry to nerf lvl 4Æs no one run them in the right way, i will make fraps of every single mision (the big DPS ones) and show you that you never need to kill frigats until last. As I stated before if you can lock 7 targets nothing prevent you to lock 5 crusers and 2 frigs and send drones to frigs (if you are scared) I donÆt know what lvl 4Æs you run but mine tank never get even 1% perma run, only on enmy abound I can get to 20/25% cos I let the darkanas hiting me until and. If you need to kill frigs then you SUCK ! Put 20 frigs on BS who cares if you clean the room from all crusers and BS where is the DPS ? what can kill you. By focusing on frigats you losing time, time that you can use to clear up the incoming damage. Am going to make few fraps so ppl can start running lvl 4ös in the right way. Will add links to this post;
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.03.04 11:37:00 - [4] I agree whith ppl that kill webers frigats, and again as i say you can lock for exemple 5 crusers and 2 frigs the point i try to make is always kill DPS in mision cos that what get you kiled. I mean I pure logic even if you get 10 webers on you once you killed the DPS you are home free. I donÆt say to be expert but I lost few ships when I started I just try to share experience as say before I will frap few of the DPS missions and will run them on the alt whith less that 10 mill skills (cruise lvl 3 lol) and will prove you that the skills donÆt mater (well they do ofc) but you can run missions in good way if you just do it right. I wonÆt pretend that I know the exact siance (even that I do realyse the post I made before was bit rude) but I strongly belive you should kill crusers, BS and then frigs it is the best order. Will probably upload something on youtube to day.
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.03.04 16:18:00 - [5] ok there you go : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDP9jJJFNJg that how i run every single mision, the trd room is uploading. sry for the video qualyty is the first time i make them. This is done on mine alt whith 7 mill SP and horibol cruser misiles skills (lvl 3) but the shild skills are all to lvl 5 that why the tank is good. No rat specific hardeners (one EM, one ter two inv one shild amp and med shild booster (make the cap stable). Sadly i did the Pirate Invasion but the movie anded 39 gb so i can't upload but i promess to upload something that actualy give you huge DPS just to prove you that you never need to kill frigs. Last think this is done in CNR ofc there is advantage to shoot things as they are far.
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.03.04 16:29:00 - [6] Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Edited by: Mastin Dragonfly on 04/03/2010 16:22:13 Originally by: Khin'charin Not being able to dictate range gets you killed. Not being able to keep transversal up against heavy hitters, gets you killed. Last time I worried about dictating range and keeping up my transversal was when doing lvl 3 missions. Nowadays the only time my Paladin moves is when moving to the next gate... agree, tbh i will try to make fraps while not moving at all so i get even the full DPS from NPC, the all point i try to prove is "kill the DPS first" = no DPS no death :)
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.03.04 17:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Khin'charin Originally by: Tian Nu ok there you go : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDP9jJJFNJg I think you failed at youtube? definetly ! first time i tried to upload something damn noob am
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.03.04 18:00:00 - [8] If you donÆt mind i can use some helpà how this guy make the movie go fast like this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yi_qq9bnsQ&feature=related can I do that whith fraps and virtualdub ? if so pls tell me :) or link some tutorial am total noob at this.
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.03.04 18:51:00 - [9] ty Chainsaw am going to read that tuto and hope will make something ppl can actualy see on mine next ataempt xD
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.03.05 15:32:00 - [10] don't worry guys i did not forget i will make the damn movies just the agent (must be the CCP plot) won't give me the pirate mission all day. PS I find the AE bonus room hard (in same way as enmy abound 5of5)the think is as some one mention is to figure out how to run it but first time is hard as hell.
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.03.11 22:22:00 - [11] Edited by: Tian Nu on 11/03/2010 22:24:59 Edited by: Tian Nu on 11/03/2010 22:23:31 Finaly i got the mission (wtf once in 3 days) big ty go to Chainsaw for this link http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1107781 helped total noob to make the first movie ever :) Ship used CNR (what else) low SP caracter (less that 8 mill, lvl 3 cruse misiles ) the point was just to prove that noob can do these if done the right way (that the way i run them any way) first kill crusers and then mix BS, drones go on frigs. Hope you like it the quality is good (i hope is good on PC) is actualy uploading so as each part upload i will post link. Oh and pls don't run it this way (am confident in mine tank) but you don't need to full agro this mision do it as the eve survival guide tell you to ! Part 1 : Pirate Invasion 1 Part 2 : Pirate Invasion 2 Part 3 :null Part 4 :null Part 5 : null Part 6 : null Ty all for helping me making this :) It seem that youtube is processing the videos so give it litle time cos the quality should be nice.

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